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October 19, 2016



And even if this effort is unsuccessful with the current generation of white working class adults, it seems as though it will be much easier with the next generation, who don't share their parents' post-war nostalgia and are already mostly opposed to Trump. https://t.co/DU5JaQyTQ5

Eamon Aghdasi

It's not an accident that progressives have lost the ideological war. There is a lot of money dedicated towards convincing voters that the government is bad, that taxes should be low, or that the US is over-regulated. That supremely rich individuals who benefit from this way of thinking have such enormous power over the conversation is the main problem, if you ask me.


exactly. self-defeating conservative politics undermines a "rational ontology." So we have to assume interests are socially constructed. Why assume the left has no power to influence these? I argue the left is exerting the wrong kinds of influence -- pushing individual consciousness on a working class that is, paradoxically, collective. The left needs to demonstrate that flag, family, neighborhood are essential to social democracy.

George H. Blackford

This is one of the most insightful political posts I have seen, mostly (as strange as it may seem) because it reinforces what I have believed since the Democratic Party took an "if you can't beat em, join em" attitude in the 1980s and the New Democrats took over the Party. From that point on there was no one out there with a voice that could be heard countering the absurd antigovernment rhetoric of the fanatical right with their incessant mantra of "lower taxes,less government, and deregulation" and their insane goal of "drowning the government in a bathtub." I still can't fathom why no politician bothered to point out that trying to save the country by destroying the government is not a good idea in campaigning against those who signed Norquist's pledge. It's not that difficult to counter the absurd arguments in favor of destroying the government if one tries. See Douglas Amy's website http://www.governmentisgood.com/ or my essay http://rwEconomics.com/IVR.htm ) The problem is that not enough people try.

Seth Edenbaum

"Clinton’s victory will show that the Democrats can win without the white working class"

Clinton's a republican in everything but name.

Interests? Erdogan is responsible for a rising middle class that wouldn't exist if you and your wife, and her father, had your way. That puts paid to that claim.

The corollary to Trump is Sanders. Neither would exist if the republic were in good shape. But Sanders would have beaten Trump easily. Clinton had to hope he'd self-destruct. Lucky for her he did.

All your shit is predicated on a contempt for the working class. Worse than a crime; it's a mistake.

Lauren Kaplan

Two issues might cut into white male working class support for forty years of Right-Wing ideological "free market" orthodoxy that has led to the dead-end of Trumpist white-nationalist resentment.
1. Gingrich etc. are RIGHT when they condemn "crony-capitalism". That was OUR bumper-sticker they stole. Progressives need to seize it back. Unless the terrain of the revolving door of influence between regulators and the regulated is recaptured with "jail the banksters" rhetoric and action, the manipulated working class is RIGHT not to trust government.
2. One partial answer is to embrace transparent, decentralized local decision-making; for example with infrastructure spending. Information tech can help solicit citizen engagement if folks come to believe their input is consequential.
Additionally, the kind of ongoing mobilization necessary so the '18 midterms don't result in another 'Dems stay home' republican re-taking the Senate, ought to be built into all jobs, justice-reform, global warming, affordable college and comprehensive immigration reform. Make the enabling legislation genuinely access-able to local constituencies constituencies. Obama promised in '08 that health care reform would be open and transparent. Instead, he went behind closed doors and made deals with the Insurance Industry and big-pharma. Brand New Congress and Bernie's ongoing "Revolution" has to press hard to open up the PROCESSES of reform to citizen engagement


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