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July 18, 2008

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dave

Stop wondering, boys on the street are taking a rip like everyone else. Cayne lost a billion, rightfully so. Typical MD has 75-85% of his net worth in company stock, excluding his home. They were not selling at the top, they are bloodied.

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A (Pakistani) commentator on the BBC mentioned that the reason for having a stock exchange - allowing firms to raise capital - was not be fulfilled in this case.

There have been no IPO's in the recent past, just speculation.

I wonder about the entire stock model, many successful firms do all their financing through borrowing and retained earnings. Why issue stock at all and dilute control?

The only reasons I can see is that the founders want to cash out and that the firm isn't of high enough quality to be able to obtain additional debt financing.

If banks won't lend you money why is the public willing to buy shares?

You can't cheat an honest man.

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Dani.

Interesting you mentioned it. I have always wondered about the incentives given by stock options as reward to company officers. It gives them a strong incentive to inflate the value of the firm prior to their stock releases, and then come up with bad news in the aftermath to readjust the value of the firm.

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Is it the same for Chinese stock market? It has been down for more than 50% since last year...

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" . . analyzed finely disaggregated trading data from the Karachi Stock Exchange."

can you do this for the nyse? wouldn't surprise me if you came up with the same result

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i wonder why this comes as a surprise? maybe for the international community, but surely not for any local. its a long known fact, that the KSE is dominated my a handful few! and players have been living by-it in good times, soo why not live by-it in bad times!

but more importantly, the current backlash is a result of the on-going economic gloom, which in the case of Pakistan is far-far deeper than the international subprime crisis!

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Dani,

Pump and dump is illegal in the US and the SEC assiduously follows up on it.

Additionally, dave is right, insiders invariably take a bath when their company stock gets pummeled.

You've been in the People's Republic of Cambridge too long. Time to venture into a locale where everyone doesn't belong to the same party.

Paranoid ramblings outside your area of competence does a disservice to your more credulous readers who take you at your word.

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I must admit i am getting a bit paranoid, although i am sure it is not from spending too much time in PRC. Pump and dump by the way is illegal everywhere, yet it happens. It clearly was taking place in the MBS market and hurt the less informed investors.

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My friend's old boss made nearly a billion dollars doing something similar at the CBOT in the '80s and '90s. He would lure traders in by flooding the market with bids. Then he'd sell into the buying frenzy. It got easier when the market went fully electronic.

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