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June 12, 2008

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Gabriel

I've never understand this argument against randomized trials. The argument you seem to be making is that when it comes to what's relevant to making policy, hard evidence doesn't exist at all--that all evidence is the same level of "softness." It's hard to believe you really think this--if all evidence was equally soft, how would you choose which evidence to look at?

Of course applying results from randomized trials to larger populations in the real world always requires some use of assumptions and softer information, so your solid-as-can-be evidence is transmuted into something softer, say, from granite into sandstone. This is true for social experiments and randomized medical trials as well. For this reason, the value of a single randomized trial is limited. But with a series of randomized trials in different circumstances that all show results in the same direction, you can have confidence that the measure will work in other circumstances as well.

In the case of conditional cash transfers, for example, there are now numerous randomized experiments from several countries that show these are an effective way to increase school attendance among the poor.

There are so many development programs that have been implemented with no evidence whatsoever that they'll do any good (I could name a half dozen that I've seen up close). At least with these programs that have been subjected to randomized trials, we have at least SOME hard evidence that the programs can work at least in some circumstances.

OS

Quite right, Gabriel. Take the deworming example. Randomized experiments have yielded similar findings in Kenya, India and the US South in the 1920s. So we have evidence from several contexts, plus plausible theories to underpin the empirical findings. Why is this still deficient relative to other approaches to development research? Certainly individual experiments shouldn't be hyped as absolute truth. But the naysayers seem to be applying the external validity critique 'ad absurdum'.

As for macro, as Ricardo Hausmann says about the growth literature, if your mountain of facts (ie, there is only data for 120 countries) is smaller than your mountain of theories (well over 120 growth theories), you have no more degrees of freedom.

I think Banerjee's observation about micro vs. macro is right on target...

ben

Gabriel, I think your arguments are quite right. However, the backlash against randomization is not arguing that randomization is not a good way to generate evidence, it's just that its proponents have taken it too far. There is a real sentiment out there that is gathering steam that only a RCT can produce "hard" evidence, and any other information is secondary. That kind of thing is what the backlash is about.

Qingdao

I would like to comment on the previous Project Syndicate article: I agree with the thrust of the article, but the sentence that jumped out at me was the reference to China. Certainly China has achieved impressive reductions in poverty, but most of that was done in a very short time in the late 70s , early 80s. Yasheng Huang focuses on this period in his new book (I have only read the summary), and argues that old fashioned microeconomic principles were the "secret." It certainly appears that now China is regressing.

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I would like to comment on the previous Project Syndicate article: I agree with the thrust of the article, but the sentence that jumped out at me was the reference to China. Certainly China has achieved impressive reductions in poverty, but most of that was done in a very short time in the late 70s , early 80s. Yasheng Huang focuses on this period in his new book (I have only read the summary), and argues that old fashioned microeconomic principles were the "secret." It certainly appears that now China is regressing.

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dani's comment about extrapolation, at least within a country or a reasonably definable unit, is really just about ensuring that the experimental intervention is done on a sample representative of the population of interest. yes, to date most interventions have been done on quite selected samples for many reaons but that is not how they should be done.
as long as you have a random sample from the population of interest, you can always extrapolate your answers to that population. so really, dani's comment can equally be interpreted as "let's throw even more money and resources at the randomistas so that they can generate truly random samples on which to try their interventions"

Justin Rietz

Dani,

First, and most important: not read the Economist? What do you read instead?

Second, your position here is in stark contrast to your reliance on econometric models. In that case, it appears you are willing to overlook the inability to account for a myriad of factors that are either too numerous to include, impossible to accurately quantify and/or just plain not known (the "unknown unknowns").

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