I've got to kick myself off this autobiographical track, but upon popular demand here is one more (and for the moment, final) installment.
In my senior year at Harvard, I applied to six different graduate programs: a business school (HBS), a program in international relations (Fletcher), a doctoral program in political science (Harvard), a doctoral program in economics (Yale), and two public policy schools (HKS and WWS). In other words, I was as confused about my career goals as you can imagine. Once again, I was the beneficiary of extraordinarily lenient admission committees who failed to narrow down my choices for me.
Being forced to make a decision, I decided to go the WWS route for several reasons: (i) they were extraordinarily generous with their financial offer; (ii) they had a nice Turkish student (an occasional commentator on this blog) give me a call to sing me the praises of the program; and (iii) it didn't limit my future career options in any way. (I might have gone to HKS instead if the nice personal note that the faculty chair of the admission committee sent me had not confused me with someone else...)
I had a great time at WWS, but I had simply put off the decision. By the second year in the master's program, I knew that I wanted a career in research, but what was it going to be: economics or political science?
I remember well what settled it for me. One day in the library, I picked up copies of the flagship publications of the two disciplines--the American Political Science Review and the American Economic Review--and put them side by side. One was written in English, the other in Greek. I thought that if I did a PhD in economics, I would be able to read both journals, but that if I did a PhD in political science, it would be goodbye economics. That was my epiphany. (I should add that many political science programs now provide solid technical training that no longer leaves the AER beyond reach--but that was not true at the time.)
But my luck with admissions committees now had (almost) run out. With unjustified cockiness, I applied only to three doctoral programs: Harvard, MIT, and Princeton. Harvard sent me a nice rejection letter, MIT did not give me money, and Princeton... Well, I didn't hear from Princeton for the longest time. I was encouraged to go work for a year, which I did at UNCTAD (quite a story for another time!), and when they eventually admitted me the following year, I imagine it was more out of compassion than conviction...
This may end up being never-ending. Now, you have a bunch of cheerleaders at UNCTAD who want to know about that part too!
Posted by: ugo | February 28, 2008 at 11:23 AM
This is nice to hear. After a MA in international conflict, and 4 years of work on the political side of international development, I started a PhD in economics for many of the same reasons. I couldn't access my econ colleagues work b/c I didnt't have the training needed to read it.
I think that starting out in a different social science and then going into economics because it fascinates you tends to produce unique perspectives that can elude econ-all-all-the-way-through friends. I imagine this is why I appreciate your work on institutions so much -- its written by someone who once thought about instituions, not simply as means to an economic end, but also as organically evolving entities of their own with complex social dynamics and precedents. Maybe turning to economics second will be a new trend. It seemed to have served the discipline well in its earliest years!
Posted by: inthemachine | February 28, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I am 20 and facing a similar decision now...I have just finished a B.A. with majors in russian and political science, but I always found myself gravitating towards the economics side of politics for it's explanatory power, like on international relations courses I found IPE more compelling than studying high diplomacy. In my final year I decided to give economics 101 a go and really thrived on it.
Now I want to study economics because (a) It gives me more gratification than political science (b) because with wanting to keep my career options open, graduate economics opens a lot of doors that polisci doesn't while shutting only a few ).
I'll have a lot of catch-up to do mathematically, probably even a second undergraduate degree, but I think I will do it anyway.
What I really agree on is that studying political science was not a waste of three years at all, but has provided me with a sense of scope and complexity of the world that I don't get with economics.
Posted by: K.C.R. | February 28, 2008 at 02:24 PM
The autobiographical anecdotes are nice and interesting.
And if you think you were confused at the end of your undergrad days you haven't seen the confusion that other people go through. Or think of your varied applications as a portfolio diversification strategy.
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Posted by: Muhammad Ali | February 28, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Please keep on posting personal anecdotes and stories! I love these type of posts!! They are very helpful to undergrads! Thank you!
Posted by: harvard college student | February 28, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Is it just me, or does that ... make it sound like there will be another installment? I hope so!
Posted by: Jeremy | February 28, 2008 at 07:16 PM
I agree..keep them coming Dani..it is a nice touch..plus..I think we all benefit from reading about your life and how you got where you are..I would be interested in your life and stories during your econ grad school days.
Posted by: gabriel | February 28, 2008 at 08:24 PM
This is the first time I hear a poli sci undergrad who looks at an econ journal and then decides to take the harder path. Tebrikler!
Posted by: Kerim Can | February 28, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Dani, thanks... You deserve a great deal of credit for choosing UNCTAD those days (over other international organizations considered more prestigious)and it now explains where you got the passion for trade... Right?
Posted by: Nilgun | February 29, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Loved to hear that story. It's kind of refreshing to know that are people are have doubts and follow not-so-straight paths...
Posted by: Gisela | February 29, 2008 at 04:51 PM
I agree with you that the two disciplines (especially political science) have been changing a lot over the years, making it easier for political scientists and economists to communicate (perhaps in a healthy mix of Greek and English) than would have been the case before. Most if not all decent political science programs nowadays train their students in advanced quantitative and formal methods, and increasing numbers of students specialize in political methodology along with a substantive field like comparative or American politics. Also, nowadays it's pretty easy to take courses in other departments (something I, and many people I know, have benefited from a great deal). Even if your "home" base is not the economics department, there is nothing stopping you from taking courses there, and learning the methods you think are most relevant to your work. Were the rules more rigid about this kind of cross-disciplinary training 10-20 years ago, or did most students just not feel the need to venture outside the traditional confines of their respective disciplines?
Posted by: Anya | March 01, 2008 at 07:07 PM
Dani (27 Feb)
"But why did I end up an economist? That's a story for another time."
Dani (28 Feb)
"Why I became an economist"
Thanks for not making us wait too long!!!
:)
I started out as pol.sci / history major and am now starting my phd in econ. Nice to see someone vindicating my decisions!
Posted by: Dominic | March 01, 2008 at 09:48 PM
I am going the other way around precisely because I want a greater understanding of how we are and why the world works the way it does. Our 2 fields have become too specialised & at times seem mutually exclusive. I'm sick of Economists sniggering at the pol sci's folks & vice-versa. We should all be made to sit together at one big round table, even at the point of a gun...
Posted by: PK | March 03, 2008 at 02:02 AM
Oddly enough - I seem to be having similar feelings, only with philosophy PhD programs rather than econ (I was Political Science/Philosophy undergrad, now pursuing an MA in International Development at AU).
Sometimes it seems that there are certain fields in the social sciences/humanities that give a broader range of tools and analytic perspectives than others (Economics, Analytic Philosophy, and History come to mind)
Thanks for the autobiographical post - it helped confirm that some recent decisions are the right ones.
Posted by: Sean | March 04, 2008 at 03:29 PM
very interesting to hear your personal account.
Am currently interning with UNIDO having studied a economic development MSc. However, the absolute lack of opportunities for someone without a Phd or relevant experience in the development field is so demoralising it has made me (and fellow graduates) think whether our studies has been worthwhile.
I wouldn't be surprised to find myself in banking and finance though that would be the last thing I would want to do.
Posted by: klee | March 13, 2008 at 03:57 AM
Dear Dani,
Hi, Dani. I am Veronica. I am a reader of your blog. I got a nice rejection letter from Harvard a few days ago. ^^;; However, I can't give up my dream to be a great economist. Thank you for your story. I believe that there will be several ways to achieve my dream. ^^*
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