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Interesting.

Although I'm broadly in agreement I guess I'd like your take on an alternative hypothesis.

Perhaps it was just easier to improve productivity in the immediate post war era than it is now, and this simply coincided with the IS policies. For example, medicine advanced leaps and bounds up until the 1970s, we had dialysis and cheamotherapy and so on by that point, since then it hasn't improved as quickly. This is more down to a slow down in technological development than a change in economic regime.

The argument is made well here by Scott Sumner.

I hope you can let me know what you think.

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Interesting argument, but I don't think it is comparable to the experience in sub-Saharan Africa where ISI policies misplaced focus on industry when it probably should have been focused on agriculture. Any thoughts? Thanks.

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I think you meant, at the end of point 3, "from high to low productivity sectors"

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In that case, what was wrong during WC was the lack of a social security/retraining network that could retrain workers.

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I think that all the structural change in the WC period in Latin America was needed to reallocate all the malinvestment made during the previous decades (IS / inflation / centrally directed economy/ etc...). Structural Change is not always "good" at first, its like a hanghover period befor the economy could grow on sounder bases

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If productivity growth was faster under ISI, why is it that every single piece of firm-level evidence shows that tariff rates are inversely related to TFP and productivity growth? I'd love to hear you comment on the firm-level "openness and growth" literature from Pavcnik onwards, and how it sits with your views on trade and industrial policy...

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So, does this implly the U.S. should try to get its manufacturing base back from China?

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I hate to say it but I see this analysis applying to IT in the USA. The way outsourcing (which I'm associating with WC) has impacted IT is that the lower rungs of the profession have disappeared in this country. But where have those people gone, who were trained for IT but could not get jobs? They go into retail, real estate, teaching. All areas with lower / slower productivity and productivity growth.

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A few observations:
Note that even under IS, the rate of growth is still much closer to the "Hindu rate of growth" (3%) than to the rates we've seen in China and India in recent decades.
Also, if shifts to informality are characteristic of the WC era, I think this is ammunition for the argument that (part of) the problem is that there's been too little of the reduction of regulatory and fiscal burdens that are part of the WC policy prescriptions.
And most importantly, productivity increases from intersectoral shifts can't go on forever. Once everyone's moved out of agriculture, that's not an option any more. (Besides, how can we know that IS policies are the most effective at producing intersectoral shifts? I would think export promotion policies would be more effective than import substitution.)
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I already browsed through the book, and I'm very glad to see that the remarks Rodrik makes in the post refer to the only chapter that does NOT rely on TFP estimates (Chapter 3). That's a very good thing I think for the robustness of the chapter's conclusions.

But oddly enough, the authors of the book make the following remark in Box 3.1: "Ideally, TFP would be the measure of productivity, following the overall direction of this book. However, given the difficulty in finding data on human and physical capital at the sector level, the measure of productivity used throughout this chapter refers to labor productivity".

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