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December 17, 2007

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catkins

Dani,

I enjoyed this post very much. It seems to me that survey results are likely to reflect what is concerning firms at the margin. This contrasts with your assertion that the binding constraint is that facing the economy in general and firms in total (as opposed to marginal; the lexicon here is not clear to me).

From here though I would turn the table back to you: Is it at the firm or economy-wide level the World Bank should operate? Is it at the marginal or total level?

I think this is a complex question as the solution invariably depends upon the political climate, nature of the constraints, and the institutional capacity to change. I would instinctively suggest that more success would be found at the margin and for this reason the ICA's might indeed by very useful.

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there is nothing very complicated about this in principle. the reforms should seek to have the maximum impact AT THE MARGIN for the economy as a whole. The point is that you cannot tell how much the desert will benefit from water by asking camels.

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Dani,

Thanks for your response. I understand your argument. I am interested in how the value of the information should be decided. I believe that this value is created by its purpose. Therefore, I am interested in the types of reforms the World Bank is seeking to perform.

For instance, in South Africa, should labour market reform (through reform of labour laws, seeking to reduce the influence of COSATU et al) be the priority or should skills development be put first. Should the binding constraint be addressed, a move that is likely costly, difficult and in which success may be less certain. Or should the marginal complaint be addressed, a area in which there may be 'quick wins' available?

Perhaps this is too far a digression from the post. Hopefully, my stocking will contain a copy of your recent book to develop my understanding of this.

Thanks,

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You get more useful information from people wishing to start enterprises (entrepreneurs)than the pre-existing firms which are bound to act in their self interest.

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Catkins,

You're confounding the issue. The binding constraint is the one which, upon removal presents the largest marginal gain at lowest marginal cost.

You seem to be seperating the idea of marginal constraint from binding constraint, but you should think of these as the same thing.

What you should think of as different, is that the binding constraint for a particular firm may be different to the binding constraint for an economy.

The firms management is responsible for solving its own binding constraints. Government is responsible for removing binding constraints of the economy.

In the example given, Dani's point is that the firms which exist in S.Africa think the binding constraint is skills, because those firms which have survived in S.Africa are not producing labour intensive products. But, according to this example, reducing the cost of labour would have greater effects in S.Africa than increasing the supply of skills. The difference is because the firms sampled have been selected as only those firms which have survived in a high labour cost environment. Reducing the cost of labour would lead to the entry of new economic activities, but that can't show up in a survey of existing firms.

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Nice post...true, very true...but what can be done to make sure that such surveys reflect true binding constranits of the economy? or are these kinds of surveys the best option among the worst?

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Dani,

You bring up a good point, but I would have to say you are critizing a "second best" solution.

Do you work on what is binding a country's existing industries or do you work on those constraints that are keeping new industries from emerging in the first place?

As a person, do you focus on your strengths or do you focus on your weaknesses?

The answer is there is no right answer. It depends on the person. It depends on the country.

These surveys are good start and very valuable, but as you point out they are missing a whole set of constraints which may be essential. A truly optimal decision would require more than these surveys provide.

The problem is we can easily identify those constraints on our strengths and we are comfortable dealing with those more so than we are our weaknesses. A second best effort focuses on identifying what is easy. A first best effort looks at the whole picture..., but that is exponentially harder...

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I wonder if there are some relevant lessons from research on availability bias.

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Rodrik: “Surveys can be immensely useful if used intelligently, but identifying binding constraints requires a lot more than just asking firms.”

Rodrik is absolutely right! Especially when some of the most severe binding constraints are hard to confess… such as an ingrained cultural trait like the lack of trust and of the owners not wanting to give up any sort of control, keep the enterprises from developing their full potential.

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by passing
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"survey of enterprises "

are these "enterprises"
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if as i conjecture
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then its strickly
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I see your point--it is certainly the case that existing firms endogenize some of the constraints. But if this is always the case, the complaints would not correlate with external, objective measures of the business environment (or the investment climate, as the Bank calls it). One can test this...and we have tried. My paper ("What Matters to African Firms? The Relevance of Perceptions Data," with Alan Gelb, Manju Shah and Ginger Turner) finds that perceptions are helpful and even camels might sometimes complain about the lack of water in the desert....

http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/IW3P/IB/2007/12/14/000158349_20071214152644/Rendered/PDF/wps4446.pdf

We'd love to hear what you think! Regards, Vijaya

paine

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These and related issues were acknowledged, reviewed and assessed by the WB itself some years ago in its World Development Report on the investment climate (2004?). What's new?

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